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Print Solutions January 2006

Mailbag

The following letters are part of a discussion that took place on DMIA’s members-only broadcast email system. The discussion centered on experiences that distributors have had with promotional products manufacturers.


I’ve always felt the “mistake ratio” for promotional product suppliers is much higher than DMIA print suppliers, and as a result I rely heavily on SAGE’s rating system and will only deal with plants with a ‘B’ average or higher. It really helps weed out potential nightmare scenarios. Plus, I provide this information to my clients when presenting proposals, explaining the value of the higher ratings vs. the lowest price.
Carrie Fireoved
President
Print Solutions Plus
Vineland, N.J.


I have experienced none of these problems. We use the SAGE tool and its suppliers, as well as a host of other suppliers for apparel. Do you have follow-up procedures in place after an order is placed, which would alert you to these problems earlier? We find constant follow up is critical, especially for promotional products suppliers because they don’t always have the same procedures as many of their print counterparts. There are some very good companies in the field as well.
Bill Strobridge
President
Data Resources
Farmington Hills, Mich.


I, too, am frustrated with the promotional products industry. I learned that some of the major promotional product suppliers are actually competing with distributors by selling direct. Norwood has formed an alliance with Office Depot, Bel Promo and Goldstar, just to name a few. There are many others. If you’re interested, there’s a web site where valuable promotional products information can be obtained. Go to www.distributortalk.com. The site was created specifically for distributors, and the forums are very open and honest.
Jan Weaver
President
ArtForm, ink.
Tampa, Fla.


Many promotional products companies are just as customer oriented as the forms industry. It just seems to be a smaller percentage. I recently placed an order with a plant, and upon trying to follow up, nobody would answer the phone or return my calls for days on end. My follow-up procedures are exacting, but the promotional products industry just doesn’t seem to care as much. Since the industry is so large and successful, maybe they don’t feel they have to work as hard to please the customer. It is also a great concern that so many companies sell direct. They should remember: What goes around, comes around.
Denny Weiss
CEO
Fast Forms
Clemente, Calif.


I think we should define the promotional products industry to shed some light on what we’re dealing with. Most of our suppliers in the printing business have substantial investments in plant and equipment. They also have the experience and expertise that got them to the point that they are running these operations. They manage press operators, order entry and customer service staff and some form of a sales force or marketing operation.

On the other hand, promotional products suppliers are not that easily defined. They may be people who were already manufacturing products for retail without any customization. They might be people who just bought a Brother embroidery machine and work out of their house. They might have virtually no people skills at all, but found an industry that would do their marketing for them with SAGE, ASI and PPAI.

Many of the big catalog operations sell the exact same stuff made in China, and it all boils down to who do you trust to do the imprinting and make timely delivery. One thing that’s sure, we’ll see more direct sales because the industry is more part-number oriented and has less need for print professionals than the custom printing industry (which has plenty of direct sales too).

The internet will present a real challenge to all who have focused their resources on this industry. It’s just too easy for end users to find what they’re looking for without our help. I am not surprised that the manufacturers are positioning themselves for direct sales. I was hesitant to dive into it for this very reason more than a few years ago. But I’m in it now and will continue to work for growth until I see a reason not to. There’s just too much money to ignore.
Robb Tipton
CEO
Star Business Products
Kemah, Texas


When we started into the commercial printing area, I think a lot of us went through the same things—finding suppliers who understand distributors, would pack and ship under our name, not sell direct and be responsive. I think there are plenty of good promotional products manufacturers; it just takes time to sort through the bad ones and build the relationships you need. It goes back to the relationship. Maybe we don’t have to sell the 29 cent pen. Instead, we can sell the Bic pen from a company that we trust, but costs a little more.
Kris Bilyeu, CDC
Vice President of Sales
Tabco Business Forms Inc.
Terre Haute, Ind.


I once dealt with a supplier that had a beautiful catalog and an extensive product line.  I ordered an item to be delivered 4 weeks before the event (a major NYC parade). There were three components to this job. My supplier outsourced everything. I found out they do nothing in house. They just have a nice catalog.  The job was very badly coordinated by them, and I even had to pay one of their vendors by an overnight check because they were on credit hold.  My job was delivered to my customer 2 days before the event.  I aged 5 years in 30 days.
Neil Rosen
CEO
Brooke Business Forms & Supplies, Inc.
Morganville, N.J.


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